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Islam Religion Of Peace
I have a friend who insists that Islam is a “religion of peace.” He challenged me to read the Qur’an. So, I read it. I said to him, “this is not a religion of peace based on what I read.” He asked, “Who’s definition of ‘peace’ are you using?” I said, “the only one there is.” He asked, “really?” He got me thinking. So, I researched the word peace.
Webster Definition of Peace: “freedom of the mind from annoyance, distraction, anxiety, an obsession, etc.; tranquillity; serenity.”
Middle Eastern definition: “The sense of tranquility and serenity resulting from having your knee in your enemy’s neck.”
I guess I stand corrected.
Hello my friends. Wish you well.
What know about Islam?
Is it because some Muslims have committed heinous crimes imagine that Islam is a religion of murder (although that certainly did was prohibited in Islam). Is Forgotten bloody wars committed in the name of the church? Is Forgotten or church scandals instruments such as forgiveness? Does this mean that the Christian religion bloody? Of course not.
Secondly Where identified Islam?
Many of the books that talk about Islam in the West by non-Muslims, like to ask the Portuguese for India ???!!!!
Do you know, for example, that Islam requires Muslims believe Jesus peace be upon him, who does not believe it is an unbeliever !!!!!!!
Did you know that Muhammad was saying (will not enter Paradise will not even believe Thabwa not even believe you if you did something to Tahabpettm, you spread peace).
Did you know that Muhammad had to say (throwing Zmia not me) Zmia mean Christian or Jewish.
My friends:
Islam does not judge by the actions of some, and you ask yourself why all this attack on Islam, according to Al-Hikma (more successfully increased your enemies) and already Valasla religions become more prevalent every day confined thousands. Are all these terrorists love blood.???
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Hello world,
We have created a blog for our university project in order to discuss the main issues surrounding Muslims and non-Muslims. The main topic of the blog is about daily experiences,and would be greatfull if you could talk about your experiences after all the media’s portrayal of Islam.
We would appreciate your contribution towards this blog, and before you start anything we would be greatfull if you could read the ‘about’ page to give yourself an understanding of what we are aiming for.
Thank you, please keep forwarding to all your contacts
The Islam Blog Team – shazed, mutahid, robin, milad
Suzy,
Thank you for your excellent comments. I understand what you are saying and agree that all religions have had their zealots, Christianity included.
I also agree that because somebody is a zealot and violent it doesn’t mean the religion is. However, in most of my blogs I am just showing the contrast of the religions and talking about that not necessarily the actions of their members.
I did know all the tid-bits you have written. Did you know that I have read other Islamic writers like Ayaan Hirsi Ali, Solomon Rushdie and Bridget Gabriel. They tell a different story than you do. I read the Qur’an and have pointed out the violent differences between what Muhammad says and what Jesus says in my posts on Meet The Prophets under the category Islam. They are exact opposites.
Ayaan Hirsi asks, why Imams say that women are equal to men, but women have their genitals mutilated, are forced to marry and are oppressed by their men, are murdered if they resist and men are not? She asks if Islam is a religion of peace, why does the prophet call for the subjugation of all “infidels,” beating women and killing for numerous reasons? I don’t see these kinds of demands in any other religion except Islam.
According to Muhammad, Islam is a religion of peace only after it has conquered and subdued the “infidel.”
My question to you is, do you deny that the Qur’an calls for the subjugation of the infidel?
The term Islam does not mean ‘peace’ in Arabic it means ‘submission’ specifically to Allah. It is thought by Islamic clerics that this submission brings peace to the individual, hence there ability to use the rhetoric of peace while all the time plotting our destruction (the West). It is clearly stated in the Quran several times that the infidel must be eliminated and that the whole world is ‘dar-al Islam’ that is the territory of Islam, we just don’t know it yet. Anyone who thinks that Islam is a religion of peace has been deceived and is probably a moron. Seriously, the first thing that Mohammed led his new followers to do once that had reached Medina, was to make new converts by the ‘edge of the sword.’ Christianity has never done this. If someone on here says something about the Crusades they are mistaken. Every Christian war has been fought for practical purposes. Islam has no purpose other than to bring the whole world to submission to Allah. Anyone who likes to argue that Christianity has done just as much evil and violence in the world has not paid very close attention to the particulars. Also, most evidence that people will mention comes from centuries before our time. Whereas, we can point to extreme violence in Islam at any point in world history it is one of its essential characteristics. By the way the Crusades were fought usually between European Christians and Arab Muslims and usually because Muslims were attacking and enslaving Christians and destroying there places of worship. Seems like a pretty good reason to war with someone if you ask me.
Shaz,
I have read your “About” section of the blog and have read many of the posts. I appreciate your desire to understand how the events of the past 7 years and the coverage of the press has affected people.
So, here is what I experience with Islam. The press has spiked many of the stories that are most painful about the terrorism that is happening around the world in the name of Allah. Particularly the heinous acts against the citizens in European countries. For instance in the months of July, August and September over 5,000 people were killed around the world in terrorist attacks. If you want to know the effects these types of acts have on people I suggest you read “While Europe Slept” by Bruce Bawer. You will get a good view of how Islamic citizens are contributing to the impressions you are feeling. Bawer’s book is a memoir of his personal experiences with Islamic believers in Europe over an 8 year period.
After reading the accounts in his book I decided to research the religion. What does the religion say about violence and murder? If you just read a minor sampling of Qur’an versus in my posts Meet The Prophets, you will see that Muhammad calls for violence regularly. So, I can understand clearly where these zealots get the idea that it is ok to be violent. They got it from the Qur’an. I think Islam says one thing and its cohorts tell the world another thinking this changes what the Qur’an says. This alone is very troubling to me.
After reading your blog site I was immediately aware that there was no renunciation of these extremists. Perhaps that the Muslim community makes little to no protest is part of people’s underlying mistrust. There has been little outcry and protest about the radical element of your religion that is set on subjugating the world to Islam.
I ask you, Is the infidel an enemy to be converted or subjugated according to the Qur’an?
Shaz & Suzy
Here is an example of the kind of thing that happens regularly when Muslims are given a chance to speak out against the violence of terrorism. A reporter asks a woman, Zahra Maladan an educated woman who edits a women’s magazine in Lebanon, at the recent funeral for the assassinated Hezbollah terrorist Imad Moughnaya — the mass murderer responsible for killing 241 marines in 1983 and more than 100 women, children and men in Buenos Aires in 1992 and 1994 — Ms. Maladan was quoted in the New York Times giving the following warning to her son: “if you’re not going to follow the steps of the Islamic resistance martyrs, then I don’t want you.”
Not a protest to the terrorist violence, but an unqualified affirmation for what was done and advocation for her son to follow in the terrorist’s foot steps.
That coverage was simply reporting what a prominent Muslim had to say about senseless violence. Notice she refers to the terrorist as a martyr and somebody her son should follow. Doesn’t seem like she is helping your cause much.
Will you bring this up on your blog as one reason for what you are experiencing? Will you protest against the terrorism?
My question is still this… Where are all of the good Muslims???? There is Zahra Maladan and Dr. Zuhdi Jasser, but where are the so called “good” Muslims hiding and why will they not speak out about the hijacking of this so called religion of peace. I might point out that the word “shalom” also means “my enimies neck beneath my feet”, but Islam is being hijacked, or in my personal opinion, by observation, is a religion of hate and intolerance and unless these so called people that believe it is a religion of peace don’t come forward and take it back, I’d like to see it wiped off the face of the earth in it’s current form. We can be pacifists and hope they will go away, or realise they are confronting us head on, and put it to an end. I don’t want to wipe every islamic believer off of the map, but I certainly want to wipe every fundalmentalist muslim that want to hurt me and my family off of the earth, and I see very few who at least admit in public they disagree with this point of view. What I see in traditional Isalam is evil and hate. I have no problem with snuffing that out from the dirt it grows!
I noticed here how in raising the issue of Islamic terrorism, it is quick to be pointed out how Christianity and Islam both have seen blood shed.The purpose of this post is to take the debate off the surface level topics and into the key questions. I’ll point out that I am neither Christian or Muslim, and offer my 3rd party perspective.
**Note to the reader: my opinions are usually quite strong, and do not intend to offend. My questions are meant to go straight to your core and test how much You believe your truth.**
I submit that debates and rebuttals over which religion spilt what blood for what reason can get off the main point described above. Bloodshed for religion cant be looked upon as one subject, as we first need to realize that the murder caused by religious hands, like any type of murder, can have underlying reasons that may not be apparent until we look closely. Let’s take a step back, identify all the causes for what they are, then focus on the main question.
Let’s first differentiate the general categories, of which there are 2:
-blood spilt in the name of the religion
-blood spilt in the voice of the religion
~~Blood in the Name of X~~
Blood spilt in the name of religion are acts that are carried out by people; these people may or may not be reflecting the values in the religion. Just like preachers who commit heinous acts of a sexual nature despite their religious background, people who murder whilst yelling out their god’s name may be doing so for personal reasons. To get clear on what those ulterior motives may be, we need to find the source of the motivation. Off hand, Ive identified 2 subcategories:
1- Blood in the name of religion, for the purpose of benefit.
2- Blood in the name of religion, for the purpose of emotional need.
.For Benefit.
All religions have been tainted by this motivation. Human nature can be greedy and power hungry, and when it is found in someone of religious authority, they can be found to use religious followers for personal gain. It should no longer be a surprise that many people do not ‘practice what they preach’. That includes people who are associated by career to a religious organization. Did you know that the Buddhist temples of ancient China were in part training grounds for different Kungfu styles? These ‘monks’ would learn to fight, why? Rebellion against government, warring over territory in relation to local authority figures… My uncle amuses me when he calls Buddhist monks of that era ‘the gangs of old times’. All except the fabled Tibetan monks of course… That was meant to be read with sarcasm- You may be interested to read that their current strife with Chinese government is not so much a struggle to ‘maintain their peaceful ways’ but simply to keep the Dalai Lamas living like kings, with local peasants like serfs. (http://www.michaelparenti.org/Tibet.html)
So there shouldn’t be any surprise that the Crusades of old times raised the power of the supporting church. Surely we are all objective enough to see the underlying purposes are agendas pushed by the leaders, and have nothing to do with the religion’s doctrine itself.
.For Emotional Needs.
Ok, so we now recognize that leaders of old and new rallied their followers to fight with the ‘Word of God’ and so forth. What of the followers? Why do they fight? You may understand that these people fight out of emotional needs; needs of the ego. This includes:
–need to be right (killing that ‘heathen’ lessens the disagreement in the world to my viewpoint, thus ‘increasing’ the popularity of it)
–social acceptance (I feel accepted by my peers if I battle along their side, regardless of reasons)
–social recognition (I get praise from my peers for killing that ‘non-believer’)
–power (I’m stronger than him because he died to my hands)
–sense of purpose (As I believe my god is right, killing non-believers gives meaning to my existance, as a homage to that god)
Humans put alot on social acceptance and status, so the fact that people blow themselves up to be ‘martyrs’ isnt surprising when the context is understood. This is similar to the fighting in Northern Ireland between the Catholic and the Protestants.
All the reasons above are ones that don’t make a religion ‘unpeaceful’. We can see that the Leader’s reasons on a macroscopic scale (power struggle, territory control) are further progressed by the followers’ individual reasons (social fulfillment, etc), and they are all selfish on different levels. The former is simply moving the hand of the latter by using the unifying word of Religious cause. It’s the religion’s name that’s being misused. I quote the National Rifle Association’s famous line “Guns dont kill people. People kill people.” Replacing the keyword gun, we have the quote: Religion doesnt kill people, people kill people. This would be true to the above, unless…
~~Blood Called for in the Voice of X~~
….Unless the religion itself claims virtue in acts of murder. It’s easy to see that the NRA quote is flawed: what is the intentionality, the purpose of a gun. A gun may not kill by itself, but wasnt it made for the purpose of killing? Looking further into the metaphor, lets make the comparison: Is the message of Christianity a gun? Is the message of Islam a gun? So really the question being posed is: Is there killing intent in the message? So we need to look at the source of the message, the voice from which the principles are spoken: The Prophet in the Scripture.
~~Ask Yourself this Question~~
If you feel so strongly about what you believe, then you should be unwavering if asked to uncover its’ roots. Let me ask you this: Do you have the courage to challenge your Own beliefs? If so, ask yourself this next question: What were the messages spoken by Christ and Muhamad? Try not to judge until you’ve uncovered the truth for yourself. Dwell on it. Research it. If you don’t like the sources used in the Meet the Prophets blog, find your own to prove your point. Let the question mull inside you. Let any emotions inside you pass, then keep thinking it through.
Remember, your religion should not have a stronger voice than your conscience. It should be in line with it.
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Hi;
i’m finding it hard to stay off the fence on this topic, but am committed to keeping my feet moving to educate myself as Dan has done for himself. I believe there is some sort of psychological warfare going on here and people’s minds, especially Western, are being masturbated and we are stuck on stupid, and I include myself. Wake up America.